Penn came to the rendezvous, and spoke at length in his own defence.

He declared that he was a faithful subject of King William and Queen Mary, and that, if he knew of any design against them, he would discover it.

Departing from his Yea and Nay, he protested, as in the presence of God, that he knew of no plot, and that he did not believe that there was any plot, unless the ambitious projects of the French government might be called plots.

Sidney, amazed probably by hearing a person, who had such an abhorrence of lies that he would not use the common forms of civility, and such an abhorrence of oaths that he would not kiss the book in a court of justice, tell something very like a lie, and confirm it by something very like an oath, asked how, if there were really no plot, the letters and minutes which had been found on Ashton were to be explained.

This question Penn evaded.