Mr.Phipps replied they were not.

Then said Mr.Straus: "Mr.Phipps, you owe it to yourself and also to Mr.Carnegie to say so publicly." This Mr.Phipps did in the _New York Herald_, January 30, 1904, in the following handsome manner and without Mr.Carnegie's knowledge: _Question:_ "In a recent publication mention was made of Mr.
Carnegie's not having treated Mr.Miller, Mr.Kloman, and yourself properly during your early partnership, and at its termination.

Can you tell me anything about this ?" _Answer:_ "Mr.Miller has already spoken for himself in this matter, and I can say that the treatment received from Mr.Carnegie during our partnership, so far as I was concerned, was always fair and liberal.
"My association with Mr.Kloman in business goes back forty-three years.

Everything in connection with Mr.Carnegie's partnership with Mr.Kloman was of a pleasant nature.
"At a much more recent date, when the firm of Carnegie, Kloman and Company was formed, the partners were Andrew Carnegie, Thomas M.
Carnegie, Andrew Kloman, and myself.

The Carnegies held the controlling interest.
"After the partnership agreement was signed, Mr.Kloman said to me that the Carnegies, owning the larger interest, might be too enterprising in making improvements, which might lead us into serious trouble; and he thought that they should consent to an article in the partnership agreement requiring the consent of three partners to make effective any vote for improvements.