It was the outside people made all the trouble.

In June of last year there was a conference at my house, and all that time there was a Committee sitting at Coolgreany, and the tenants would not be allowed to do anything without the Committee." "And who made the Committee ?" "Oh, they made themselves, I suppose, sir.

There was Sir Thomas Esmonde--he was a convert, you know, of Father O'Neill--and Mr.Mayne and Mr.John Dillon.

And Dr.Dillon of Arklow, he was as busy as he could be till the evictions were made in July.

And then he was in retreat.